For this, of course Juliet meant Joomla!.

What is our name going to be? I created a group called International Event. That might as well be some United Nations event. It says nothing about Joomla! or why we'd be getting together.

Don't forget! In order to use the name Joomla!, we have to submit a name request. The closest fit I see is the Logo and name use request form.

I've been tweeting this as the Joomla! International Event since Joomla! Days have their own rules and, I believe, are limited to local communities. But, it dawns on me, we don't know what we want to call this First Ever Joomla! International Event.

What does everyone think? And Robert, if we have not submitted the form, we should do so. It won't take long to get a response, I am certain. This is an exciting community-driven initiative that I am certain everyone is behind.

I already started pricing airline tickets. I'm sure those prices will come down before May! Eek! ;-)

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Ken -

Thank you for asking that question. I've wondered about that, myself. I realize it's a difficult question, but it's a fair question.

The best possible result, of course, is for this community-driven, positive event to be done in partnership with the project, which is why Robert's post is there, and why I posted in support! I hope that still happens - I want that very much.

Absent their involvement/support, then it will be important to not look "official" - like O'Reilly did with their MySQL Conference & Expo. The name has MySQL in it - but it's qualified so it's not "official." Maybe the Joomla! Community International Conference? I don't know.

The OSM and the Leadership Team work very hard - but they are only 15 pairs of hands. Got to spread out the work a bit and a little stretching is okay. This is going to be an awesome event - we need to make it happen. And, I hope, hope, hope to do it hand in hand with the project involvement as an official event.

So, thanks for asking - let's keep moving in positive directions. I cannot tell you how excited I am about Germany. I *assume* you plan to be there? I hope so.
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I do not see the OSM camp lining-up to be supportive.
And frankly I think it is fantasy to think that is going to happen.

To me it does not matter.
We can promote and execute a fantastic Joomla! conference without their entanglements.
(and I do not need permission to use the word Joomla! in that sentence)

No one is proposing to pretend to be an "official" conference.
There is no trademark issue.
It is simply using a noun in a title.


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The more I think about it the more I like this:

JoomCon 2010 - The International Joomla! Conference


That is an option which has no ambiguity and would be easy to brand and market.

We need a decision on a conference name ASAP.

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You know me, Ken, I like to hold on to PollyAnna as long as possible. It could happen! :-)

This works for me:
JoomCon 2010 - The International Joomla! Conference

Keep helping us move forward; much appreciated.
Amy Stephen said:
You know me, Ken, I like to hold on to PollyAnna as long as possible. It could happen! :-)

This works for me:
JoomCon 2010 - The International Joomla! Conference

Keep helping us move forward; much appreciated.

Ken, in my view is perfectly correct in saying that no permission is needed. The Joomla! word is not in itself a trademark, the only way OSM can stop its use is to register it as a Service Mark, which is hardly applicable under European law anyway.

My advice, under UK law, where Joomla! was created, (Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (c. 48), its use as a noun is universally allowed and this use is also protected by the freedoms provided in the European Berne Converntion.

It would be far more constructive and useful if OSM ratified this event with all the support it can muster rather than continuing to present obstacles. If a community wants such an event to happen, OSM should be delighted it's being organised.
"JoomCon - International Joomla! Conference"
Conservative dull copycat Drupalish

"J and Beyond - International Joomla! Conference"
Modern fresh unique Joomlaisch

How do you see or present the J community? :-)
+1

Arno Zijlstra said:
"JoomCon - International Joomla! Conference"
Conservative dull copycat Drupalish

"J and Beyond - International Joomla! Conference"
Modern fresh unique Joomlaisch

How do you see or present the J community? :-)
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It would be helpful to have a unique name that would be easy to find with a search engine.
JoomCon is unique and could easily be found via a search engine.
J and Beyond has no unique term to help an SE find it.
From a marketing and PR standpoint that is not desirable.
Additionally using "J" is more confined to a small group of loyalists.
The world at large would not get it.

Name it JoomBoom or MegaJoomConf or TheJoomlaConferenceToDieFor or whatever.

Just make it unique and marketable.

And sometime soon.

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+1

We (Joomla! and its Community) are moving forward into our bright future, not sitting back and dwelling on our past. Also why be "copycats", all that shows is that "We" don't have anything "original" to "bring to the table" which certainly IMHO is not that case with everyone whom I've come into contact with in the past 21 months since first being having Joomla! being brought to my attention!

Arno Zijlstra said:
"JoomCon - International Joomla! Conference"
Conservative dull copycat Drupalish

"J and Beyond - International Joomla! Conference"
Modern fresh unique Joomlaisch

How do you see or present the J community? :-)
JoomBeyond!

(haha, you see, it's what we call a "poldermodel" in Holland: a compromise. But it sounds good and preserves the best of the above proposals).
In the logo thread (http://www.alltogetherasawhole.org/forum/topics/event-logo?groupUrl... ) Arno proposed an interesting subtitle for the event: " Joomla! International Community Conference".
Yes we are now creating (rebuilding) our Community, so adding Community to the wording might be appropriate!

Herman Peeren said:
In the logo thread (http://www.alltogetherasawhole.org/forum/topics/event-logo?groupUrl... ) Arno proposed an interesting subtitle for the event: "International Joomla! Community Conference".
Ken, "J and Beyond has no unique term to help an SE find it. From a marketing and PR standpoint that is not desirable."

I think that's not a valid reason, something like "J and Beyond" is perfectly marketable and especially in case of an event this large. The event will be written about many many times so the problem with search engines is a non problem, SE has flexible rules to make the best out of it.

As long as something is marketed in good way and lot's of buzz is created a "name" doesn't have to be one word, it should have a nice/good meaning that people can identify themselves with if possible.

For me this is an event and a time to do something great, new and fresh which the project and community could really use considering the situation. That's one of the reasons I think something like JoomCon is to simple and dull and I also feel strongly for not using the standard J logo colors in the event logo, it should have it's own fresh branding.

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